Black Diamond Helio Carbon 104 Skis 2025 - Used
Model Info
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Product Info
The Black Diamond Helio Carbon 104 Skis are the pick for mid-winter touring missions when you know it's going to be deep. Light enough for full days, wide enough to float the goods, and stout enough to stand tall when the going gets gnarly, the Helio Carbon 104 uses a pre-preg Carbon fiber layup over an engineered Paulownia wood core, with plenty of gradual tip rocker and full ABS sidewalls all around to put the power on your edges.
Product Details
Rocker Type
178 cm – 334mm Tip Rocker / Camber / 242mm Semi-Rocker Tail
Core
Engineered Paulownia Core – Paulownia wood is the material of choice when light weight is required, but compromising downhill performance is not an option. The stiffness and weight properties of paulownia wood make it the go-to material when using carbon fiber layups. Its slightly softer longitudinal stiffness allows for the use of stiffer carbon composites without compromising the flex profile of the ski. It has good compressive and shear properties, which allow for remarkably smooth and chatter-free ski performance at very low weight.
Laminates
Titanal Binding Plate – A high-strength metal plate is embedded underneath the composite layer to ensure that binding screw retention is never a concern. This plate also serves to increase torsional stiffness and provides a solid foundation underfoot.
Pre-Preg Carbon – A blend of High-strength carbon fiber oriented along multiple axes combined with strategic amounts of high-strength E-Glass for toughness and damping, this layup is optimized for efficiency without giving up downhill performance. Toughened epoxy resin is added in precise quantities prior to ski manufacturing to ensure precise weight and consistent quality. This layup is ideal for any backcountry mission.
Sidewalls
Full-Perimeter ABS Sidewalls – ABS sidewalls wrap the entire perimeter of the ski, offering optimal durability and damping. Used on skis designed for maximum downhill performance and durability, but optimized for minimal weight.
Base
PTEX 4500 Base – Industry-accepted as the premium base material, this sintered UHMW-PE base provides very high density for excellent durability and wax retention, combined with high carbon content for superior glide.
Additional Features
ABS Tail Protector
Integrated Skin Clip Slot
Handmade in Austria
Binding Compatibility
We recommend a brake width equal to or at most 15 mm wider than the ski waist width.
Specs
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Terrain:
All-Mountain, Alpine Touring
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Terrain
All-Mountain All-mountain skis are designed to handle anything you throw at them including powder, ice, groomers, steeps, heavy snow, and everything in between, but they aren’t necessarily a master of any one terrain. If you’re only going to own one ski to do it all, this is what you want. All-mountain skis generally have what we call mid-fat waists that range from 80-110 mm. Alpine Touring Also known as backcountry skis, alpine touring (AT) skis are designed for going uphill as well as downhill. These skis are typically light for their width and many feature fittings that accept climbing skins. AT skis vary in width and weight, with the wider heavier versions usually used for winter/deep snow touring and the skinnier, lighter skis usually used for spring/summer/long distance touring.
- Skis: No Bindings
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Ability Level:
Advanced-Expert
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Ability Level
Advanced-Expert Whether you charge the steepest lines, hit the biggest jumps in the park or carve with race-like precision, advanced to expert level skis, snowboards, boots and bindings are for the more aggressive rider. In skis and snowboards, you'll often find layers of metal, carbon or other stringers for rigidity and power, while advanced to expert level boots and bindings are usually on the stiffer side of the spectrum for rebound and precision steering.
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Rocker Type:
Rocker/Camber/Rocker
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Rocker Type
Rocker/Camber/Rocker Rocker/Camber/Rocker skis have the playfulness and float of a rockered ski as well as the added edge hold of a cambered ski. The contact points on skis with this profile are closer towards the middle of the ski than a fully cambered ski, but still not underfoot. The cambered midsection provides a longer effective edge on hardpack, increasing edge hold and stability, while the rockered tip and tail provide floatation in deeper snow and allow the ski to initiate and release from turns easier.
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Turning Radius:
Medium
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Turning Radius
Medium 17-22 m radius is best for all-mountain and park & pipe.
- Core/Laminates: Carbon, Metal, Wood
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Tail Type:
Flat
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Tail Type
Flat This is your traditional tail, designed to have edge contact all the way through the tail, and only designed for skiing forward. This is also preferred for alpine touring, as you can stick the tails of your skis in the snow.
- Warranty: 1 Year
| Size (cm) | 160 | 166 | 172 | 178 | 184 |
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| Tip Width (mm) | 130 | 131 | 131 | 132 | |
| Waist Width (mm) | 104 | 104 | 104 | 104 | |
| Tail Width (mm) | 117 | 118 | 118 | 118 | |
| Turning Radius (m) | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | |
| Indiv. Ski Weight (g) | 1351 | 1353 | 1450 | 1610 |